Dear Professor, when
I interviewed you for the first time it had been very
interesting for everybody. This interview became known all
over the world via the internet. There had been a sort of
attraction, an appeal.
I am thinking your
popularity in the media has contributed to this interest.
Now, with your permission I would like to ask some questions
for ‘’A One to One Conversation, Part 2’’.
The questions at the
start are not in your field of work, but we shall be going
towards that point.
-300 years ago
Isaac Newton had stated that time was extending into the
infinite future from the infinite past, but this had been
invalidated by the ‘’General Theory of Relativity’’ developed
by Albert Einstein. What do you think about Einstein’s
theory?
-Well, it is said that
even Einstein himself could not understand, so how dare this
poor one can explain it. I can only tell a few things as
much as my intellectual level permits. Meanwhile, I no
longer take part in the tv programs, therefore I do not think
that I am that popular in the media.
-Can you explain
the subject a little bit more?
Well, he had said
that everything was relative and this was determined by the
fourth dimension which was time. According to the formula
E=mc2 the highest speed that could be reached was the
speed of light and the mass of anything at this speed would
be infinite. The infiniteness and the zero point would be the
same, because the existence would be abolished.
However, today it is
known that there are particles which travel faster than the
speed of light. Moreover, last year just for a very short
instant the scientists could make the light flow backwards in
the laboratory. This is an extraordinary advancement. So, we
can say that both the infinite past and the infinite future
are being created.
-Do you think that
there is the need for an outside power, in other words a god
outside in order for the universe to be created?
This depends on what
you understand from the concept of god. For example, in
Christianity, especially in the Catholic doctrine the
god is being imagined as anthropomorphic, something similar
to Zeus who punishes or rewards and it is being imagined
like a man who is the almighty.
In Islam, this is the
same for the ones who, like a parrot repeat the things that
have been written without filtering them through the filter
of mysticism and who did not have their share from the
scientific commentaries. However, in the following
wonderful lines of Yunus Emre you can see that magnificent
transcendental understanding of Allah :-
‘’What they call
heaven is a few palaces and a few beautiful ladies,
You give these to the
ones who want them, but it is you who is necessary for me’’
These lines perfectly
fit into the understanding of Wahdat –ý Wücud (Oneness of
Existence) .
In the Johanna’s bible
at the beginning it says ‘’At first there was only the
speech and the word was the God’’. Also, the
first divine inspiration (wahey) that Hz.Mohammad had
received was ‘’READ’’, so they mean similar things. The other
great mystics are always emphasizing the same theme. The
messages ‘’speech’’and ‘’read’’ have a visible
aspect which means ‘’learn how to read and write, read much
and extend your vocabulary.
There is also a
hidden meaning which says ‘’read the whole, the absolute
information which is beyond the past and future eternity
(because both of them are created beings). In the Islamic
mysticism this is named as the Levh-i Mahfuz
and in other belief systems it is named differently such as
the Kabbalah. This is something that can be grasped
not with simple logic, but by deep transendence only.
Some very gifted,
selected brains can grasp this and try to explain that life
verbally (which actually is impossible to be expressed by
words) so that the ordinary people may understand them. These
gifted people are named as ‘’Represantatives’’, in other words
‘’Prophets’’. Such gifted humans have arrived to every
community and the Koran is verifying this fact.
-How did the great
explosion (the Big Bang) happen? As a scientist what is your
opinion on this subject?
It is interesting that
the theory of the great explosion had come to the fore upon
the thoughts of the atheist American scientist Gamoz who
had a Jewish origin and the deist Protestant priest
George Henri Lemetrie. Moreover, the ideas, the
thoughts and the way of thinking of, the deduction of these
two men were completey different than one another. When it
was proved that the universe was continuously expanding this
proof had upset the ‘’the theory of the steady/stationary
state’’ which had been based on the catholic teachings.
As the universe is
continuously expanding when you roll the film backwards there
should be a first instant. The name Big Bang was a
sarcastic word used by those who wanted to make fun of these
two thinkers, but it has been accepted as a scientific term.
Science is trying to
determine ‘’what has happenned’’ in that first instant;
but the questions ‘’why?’’, ‘’for what purpose’’ are beyond
science and they are left to the belief sysytems and the
religions. Whereas, the matter is not so simple. In the
recent years scientists like Alan Gutth and Hawkins
(who can create marvels by the only finger that he can move)
are saying things which imply that the infinity has an end too
and this end opens the door for another infinity. So, all
these mean that there is nothing such as absence!
They are thinking that
the first instant of the universe cannot be the only absolute
one and their reason is that the idea which says that the
universe has come into being out of nothing cannot be possible
by simple logic. Therefore, they are thinking that both the
Big Explosion and the Big Collapse are continuosly taking
place in the parallel universes. For example, the symbols
like the universe beyond, heaven or hell can be accepted when
we look through this window.
-Lately, in the
science of cosmology there is a subject which is being much
referred to and this is the 11th dimension. What do think
about these dimensions. As a matter of fact, 4 of these
dimensions are known. Can we accept the rest as parallel
universes?
As I am not a
cosmologist I could not follow the subject closely. I do not
know if the experts of cosmology or cosmogeny are talking
about these? The only thing I know is that there are pleanty
of theories which say that there are universes within
universes, but I do not know how the 11th dimension has come
out?
-Do you think that
sleep is attaining something abstract?
I do not know the
exact scientific answer, but I am thinking that it is
possible.
-During sleep there
are the phases of the dreams... When some dreams become true
clearly can it be explained by an event that has been lived in
the parallel universe? I would like to have your opinion
on this subject as a scientist.
My dear friend, I am
open to all kinds of explanations, assumptions and theories.
However, they must have a scientific support and must be
opened according to the scientific methodology. Even the idea
of parallel universes is an assumption and their existence
could not be proved, so when we say that the dreams are coming
from them it would be absurd. Anyhow, we should not forget
that the histroy of science owes a lot to such absurd
ideas.
I thank you because
you have given us so much information.
I thank you too, you
are welcome.